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Terry Posted - 11/02/2017 : 12:52:10
New poster here. I have been playing around with home made Velos for a few years.
I have had much help from members like ricmantoo and more recently Garrie Hill.
My interest is wood composite .the first Velo designed mostly by Rick turned out pretty well and I am now attempting to copy a WAW.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146970675@N08/shares/tf8K02
I usually have lots of questions about Velo construction and bike stuff? but I do have a pretty good background in wood composite projects,so I like to help out interested parties where I can. Computer workings is definately NOT my strong suit! I hope these links to pics work , I am still trying figure all this out!!!
I have resisted posting before to this section as it seemed to be going in odd directions with old odd stuff!? For awhile I thought there was a hint of satire? Anyway, if a section is supposed to to be about velomobiles then I better add my 2 cents!
Terry

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Jerry Posted - 02/01/2018 : 11:55:09
I sold almost all my wood working tools. I had hundreds of clamps, tools, and fixtures. I would love to build a wood strip velo, but found out I am allergic to most wood dust and shavings. Found out the hard way by ending up in the hospital not being able to breathe and looked like a big old lobster!

That guy does do beautiful work and so do you. Keep up the great work.

Jerry
carolina Posted - 02/01/2018 : 10:08:10
Boom pics please, ill show my idea too.

Base of mine is basically a circle arch that glues into both wheel wells a front. Bolts to bridge as it does now with df style setup. Then boom in middle. Weight less than aluminum.



Just idea, photo sideways. On left & right it will be wide like beaver tail (where it goes on leading edge of two frt wheel wells) , wide as it is now in middle. Top arch will just be up in the air. Boom mounted same way as now but with top & bottom support. You can help me too. Plug may not be to bad to make.
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Terry Posted - 02/01/2018 : 09:10:04
Jerry,
Yes that was basically what inspired me to try building a wood strip Velo!
He does great work. From what I understand, he has a wood work shop near Velomobile.nl. So all the bike parts are reasonably available to him.
Something like that would be of great value !, to a hacker like me.
T
Jerry Posted - 01/31/2018 : 21:25:38
Terry, I thought of your build when I saw this. Made me smile! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kC2dOeI7QY .
carolina Posted - 01/27/2018 : 09:54:35
Can’t wait to see your carbon boom construction. Iam gonna start one in month or so.


Try signing up with photobucket, i love it, & user friendly. All i own is an iPhone X. Very seldom it will shut down for mod and cleaning up some issue/not often. I have run it for years on iphone. Think i have used PB for 4 years basically no problems.
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Terry Posted - 01/26/2018 : 23:53:17
Not too much to show. Seat hardware,hinges for cover and carbon boom.
I can,t get the Flickr pics to work!
Sorry
T
carolina Posted - 01/25/2018 : 22:27:51
Alrite terry, your late for update.

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Grant-53 Posted - 12/29/2017 : 20:15:44
Tony, Hilliard Corp. is a local company that make drive train components for ATVs. They list differentials and clutches which might be useful in a fwd quad.
Garrie L Hill Posted - 12/24/2017 : 19:51:31





Garrie "carbon based lifeform" Hill
HPRA Co-Dictator of the East
for pics of some of my time and money sucking projects
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/cfbb/
and videos
http://vimeo.com/5513519


Terry Posted - 12/24/2017 : 17:27:56
With big help from Garrie Hill I've been able to copy a Quest seat. Wood composite 750 grams.
I can't seem to get a pic posted but it is on Flickr somewhere???
Mery Christmas all.
T
alevand Posted - 12/23/2017 : 07:06:56
A quad needs only 60% of the track of a trike (18in vs 30in) for the same corner tipping, that a 40% frontal area reduction, all things being equal, and 34% more weight on the drive wheels (50/50 vs 67/33). Though you'd probably want to make it a little wider. Storing stuff in the back doesn't reduce stability. A fwd quad would be cool.
C:
Tony Levand
carolina Posted - 12/22/2017 : 18:14:18
Honestly me either Tony nor the earth famous Velotilt with a 1/2 disc and brake caliper back there. But l like 4 wheeler velo anyway.

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alevand Posted - 12/22/2017 : 11:53:20
I don't get how the cable steering works, how does it make the bike rigid?

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Tony Levand
Speedbiker Posted - 12/20/2017 : 17:29:13
I like Terry's WAY better. Mike's is okay,too :-)
Terry Posted - 12/20/2017 : 11:34:52
Very interesting!!
I look forward to his work with fabric coverings!
carolina Posted - 12/19/2017 : 15:19:57
Terry:

https://youtu.be/44_CzZDD_08

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Terry Posted - 12/17/2017 : 18:44:37
Well thank you for the greetings Mike and the same to you!
I have been for some r&r in SoCal. Warm and sunny!!
Back home soon and I promise to get back to work!
Cheers T
carolina Posted - 12/15/2017 : 00:34:58
Terry, what in the hell ya doing? Merry Christmas and a happy new year 2018!

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carolina Posted - 11/11/2017 : 18:04:49
Also terry, you might like a big strong chain canal on this one. I dont know how your other velomobiel is in that department but my chain canal is like a spar on a plane.

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Speedbiker Posted - 11/11/2017 : 16:33:36
Also remember that your structure is only as strong at it's thinnest cross section. Loads don't care how fat the ends of a structure is if it's skinny somewhere else.
Carbon over even the lightest wood is a great idea!
carolina Posted - 11/11/2017 : 12:44:17
Here is pic of my velomobiel. You want the twin no teeth chain wheels. You want chain under bridge with a tiller. It doesn’t matter about wide booms base and vertical,, your legs want hit. That is 10mm chain wheel axle, what you must use.

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You see my seat adjustments, just quest hardware. I love my velomobiel. Like you, l own the company and will just make another.
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carolina Posted - 11/11/2017 : 12:29:13
Daniel designed this for EVO people. Take your time, this is the hardest area of velomobiel unibody. Your bridge should be covered in cf and a piece of innegra sandwiched in between cf. Its 9$ yard. Carbon & innegra is strong as death.

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The three black circles i made are all lil’ fatter and wider which is no problem with cf-wood. You can shape balsa and cover with cf.

The wide base with couple bearings down @ bridge base it strong. This dang thing is strong because that is a 18 speed Pinion transmission setting atop. It can move forward or backwards with the round tube you see, then locked down.
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carolina Posted - 11/11/2017 : 12:10:04
1) I can mail you the plug terry if ya want, then later you can mail back!

2) I think you should use cf over your sanded and shaped wood. AFTER YOU SAND YOUR CF OVER LAYUP AND SPRAY CLEAR ON IT IT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL.. Just get few yards of 11oz twill and yard of straight uni from compositeenvisions.com

3) I like tiller best and stock off shelf parts from the old country to me. I try not to invent hardware, its enough to care and improve all these molds (tools).

4) I have not figured out the tube backwards will work with tiller in the way. Unless one running on one side of tiller which might be good place for velcro to hold tiller vertical for getting in and out.

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We can keep working on this with speedbiker, Garrie, warren, etc., and others and we might come up with something good.


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Terry Posted - 11/11/2017 : 10:41:02
Update...
Stephane sent me drawings of the WAW boom. I can use those as a basis for another design. I will still try it in carbon or wood composite,or maybe both?
Stay tuned for a new mock up!
I suggest my idea of molded top and bottom plates will resist peddle forces adequately but I see how a long lever will definately spread the forces out even more!
Mike, I plan to use a tiller steer like yours in this version!
Also ,I'd like to copy your quest seat , can you send me some measurements so I could get a profile?
Thanks T
Speedbiker Posted - 11/11/2017 : 01:35:47
Terry, assuming you keep the full verticle tube, the run the tube from the seat to right behind the bb. And don't make the tube running forward from the verticle tube any longer than necessary.

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