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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
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Posted - 04/24/2009 :  17:37:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is the information I have at this time. More as it becomes available .

From Malric Leborgne:

Bike Desc: M5 steel lowracer- non faired- single speed- disc wheels.
Attempt Desc: Mr aurélien Bonneteau will make a attempt on the non
faired recumbent Hour record on the 15 May 2009 on the Bordeaux indoor
track. The French Fédération of Cycling will provide the timing
equipment and one official observer. France-HPV or AFB (French racing
association) will also provide an observer to make sure that the
record complies with the WRRA rules. We also plan to make an anti
doping test if the record is broken.

For more information on the rider you can google Aurelien Bonneteau.


Sean Costin

Auré
Starting Member

France
48 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2009 :  16:10:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello everybody,
it's nice to "e"meet you.
Sorry for my english, but I'll try to do my best.

So yes, like Malric and Sean said, I'll ride my M5 steel low-racer on the next 15th may, at the Bordeaux's wood track, during one hour, and do as much as kilometers possible.

I have 26 years old, practice cycling since 13 years and ride recumbent since 5 mounth. I left the Gendarmerie National Cycling Team, to live a new adventure : the recumbent.
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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1999 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2009 :  04:48:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow! 5 months is not much time on a recumbent especially through the Winter months. How have you been training and what results to have you obtained which give you confidence that you will break the record?

What interested you in recumbent racing?

Sean Costin

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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1999 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2009 :  06:31:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aurélien,

If you can post a picture of your bike on this forum or a link to a picture, we would all love to see it.

Merci,

Sean
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Auré
Starting Member

France
48 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2009 :  07:38:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, 5 months seems a little short to be in the best physicals condition. So I just will do my best on the next 15th may.
I will be happy to beat the actual French unfaired hour record, which Francois FAURE has since 1933 with 45,055 km.

Chronologically, it's not really my first try. When I was younger in 2001 with really a few training ( around 3 weeks ) I made a first hour performance on the Bordeaux wood track, with 45,350 km with a tail faired Optima BARON, this link speak about that http://www.optima-cycles.com/events/BOB2001.htm
In those time, my heart swung between " try to become a Professional on traditional bike" or to live a new adventure with recumbents. Then for several years, I trained and rode race on traditional bike.
I made some good results, you can see them on http://aurelienbonneteau.free.fr, but it wasen't enought to became a "Pro",you know it's an hard world, and be naturaly strong is far from sufficient.

So recumbent was allready in a corner of my hed. There is two winters, my father wich training sometime with me, was sick to not follow me on the end's training and interval training. We made some research, and the M5 Low Racer seemed a good product to ride fast. So He get a M5 TiCa low racer, and 4 mounths later, even on my beautifful Time Trial LOOK 496, I could not follow him.

In the 2008 winter it was my turn to practice 100% recumbent. I get a Steel M5 Low Racer, and quickly, I rode faster than on my old bikes. So I had the idea to remake an hour record.

I make my train with SRM around 10 years.
There is 4 weeks I made a try for a half hour on the track, and I rode 24 km with just a rear disc wheel.
Even if break the record is a good thing, I think that speak about it, is maybe a better thing for the recumbent development.

Soon a pic of my recumbent :D


Thank you for reading me, despite my little knowledge of English

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Garrie L Hill
human power supergeek

USA
1686 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2009 :  08:07:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This, from the M5 site:



Garrie "carbon based lifeform" Hill
for pics of some of my time and money sucking projects
http://garriehill.winkflash.com/
and
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/cfbb/

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Garrie L Hill
human power supergeek

USA
1686 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2009 :  08:10:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or, if you can't read the tiny print go directly to the website:
http://www.m5-ligfietsen.nl/


Garrie "carbon based lifeform" Hill
for pics of some of my time and money sucking projects
http://garriehill.winkflash.com/
and
http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g277/cfbb/

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Gugi100
New Member

Netherlands
80 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2009 :  02:13:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sean costin

The French Fédération of Cycling will provide the timing
equipment and one official observer. France-HPV or AFB (French racing
association) will also provide an observer to make sure that the
record complies with the WRRA rules. We also plan to make an anti
doping test if the record is broken.




It is funny it seems the French Fédération of Cycling will recognise the record as a French record in succesion of the record set by Fauré. Is that also the reason why a anti doping test will take place? I think it is exciting that a (national) Cycling Federation will recognise a "bent" record. Or am I misinformed here?

I think it is also funny that the attempt wil be made on a M5 chromo Lowracer. It is a capable bike. I also think it is estetically very nice. It just connects two wheels and a crackset while placing the body in a aerodynamic position.

http://www.velo101.com/actualite/default.asp?id=16526&Section=Cyclosport
http://www.m5france.com/
Some footage of the Bordeaux track
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/Dolmen33/video/x8tg2l_demi-heure-de-piste_sport

I am excited by this attemp!

Gogogogo Aurélien.

Greetings Gert-Jan Wijers




Edited by - Gugi100 on 05/08/2009 02:14:45
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25hz
human power supergeek

Canada
1223 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2009 :  05:18:17  Show Profile  Visit 25hz's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's very cool that the FC is recognizing not only Faure's record from the past, but that they also recognize the efforts to break the record more recently by mentioning Sean Costin and Gert Jan. That bodes well for the chances of other bent racers to talk to their own national cycling organizations for comment on recumebnt records now that there is a French precedent. It is entirely possible that other national cycling organizations already recognize recumbent efforts in a way that the UCI does not. Does anyone know if other cycling organizations are open minded like that? I know the ultra cycling organization in the States is apparently open minded enough to recognize recumbents. I think I'll try to pen a letter to the CCA and see what they say.

I'll also ask what the process or procedure is for setting national records. Someone has to be, or had to be the first one, but how was it decided? Does someone search around for results, ask the national cycling body, and if nothign else is recorded, claim the record and wait a certain amount of time for any disputes? If someone is a world record holder, for example Sam in the hour, then the world record and Canadian record are the same. When Fast Freddy beat Sam, then Sam is the Canadian record holder, and FF the new world and US record holder, and so on. Is that basically the way it works or is there something else I'm missing?
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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1999 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2009 :  06:02:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From my understanding, Aurélien is attempting a WRRA record, but he us using officials of the AFB or French HPV association who have an understanding of the requirements of timing.

I am not aware of any other organization that is recognizing this attempt should it become a record.

I have mixed emotions regarding drug testing. Testing is not a requirement of the WRRA and at this stage in the progression of recumbent records I think it is not yet necessary. I applaud Aurélien for wanting to take this step to further legitimize his attempt.

As recumbent racers, we must chart our own course for the future. Should our paths cross with other cycling organizations then we can take advantage of those opportunities to demonstrate the unique advantages of recumbent design.

Sean
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Keith Davis
Starting Member

United Kingdom
6 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2009 :  02:04:20  Show Profile  Visit Keith Davis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
&evt&evt
quote:
Originally posted by sean costin
As recumbent racers, we must chart our own course for the future. Should our paths cross with other cycling organizations then we can take advantage of those opportunities to demonstrate the unique advantages of recumbent design.



Paths are set to cross in just over a week: A recumbent/HPV race will be taking place on a British Cycling sanctioned course immediately before two British Cycling sanctioned races ( http://tiny.cc/rHzTN ). British Cycling is the national governing body for cycle sport in the UK:
http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/BC/bcf/aboutbc.asp


For more information about the event, look at the website:
http://www.jerseytowncrit.com
and the program:
http://homepage.mac.com/jobank/Photos/ubastudio/final_program_outside.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/jobank/Photos/ubastudio/final_program_inside.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/jobank/Photos/ubastudio/final_program_poster.jpg

I would like to get in touch with someone from the ultra cycling organization in the USA to find out how they recognize recumbents. Does anyone have any contacts?

There are still places available if you want to enter - send me a PM.

Keith.

Edited by - Keith Davis on 05/13/2009 09:34:49
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legslarry
recumbent enthusiast

United Kingdom
403 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2009 :  03:16:42  Show Profile  Visit legslarry's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Keith Davis
I would like to get in touch with someone from the ultra cycling organization in the USA to find out how they recognize recumbents. Does anyone have any contacts?



AFAICT UMCA - http://www.ultracycling.com/ - aren't bothered about what you ride, you just have to join the organisation (which you can do just to compete in a single event) and then you should be OK for any ride on their calendar. Got a plan to enter the Mersey Roads 24 or something

Dave Larrington
http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
=============================
a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds
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25hz
human power supergeek

Canada
1223 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2009 :  04:46:23  Show Profile  Visit 25hz's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was just having an email conversation with Drew Clark from the UMCA about ultra events and bents. RIght now, they recognize HPVs (as in something with full fairing) and anything else is lumped into the "recumbent" category. They said as more participation happens, they will be able to parse the recumebnt classification into smaller and more defined classes. Their criteria for record attempts is laid out pretty well, Drews responses to my questions were prompt, logical and honest. They welcome anyone's participation but also said they didn't want to start inventing "one off" records that would rarely or never be challenged again. I think the UMCA is going to be very open to recumbent class expansion. In fact, I think Sean contacted them about the Ford event and they are ready and willing to recognize new ultra marks set there as well.
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Auré
Starting Member

France
48 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2009 :  15:26:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://aurelienbonneteau.free.fr/M5LRAcier.jpg
The bike in the record configuration.

Is there any big event in the USA for the Recumbent only or/and traditional bike and recumbent ?
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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1999 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2009 :  19:57:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aurélien,
The bike looks good! please contact me via email before the attempt at seancostin@wideopenwest.com
I do not have your email address and I have a few questions before your attempt. Parlez-vous Anglais?

Sean
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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1999 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  05:13:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The day has arrived! I have not seen the actual time of the event. At last check, they seemed to have all of their documentation requirements addressed. New record or not, this is a success for our sport as the number of individuals pushing themselves to higher levels of performance is steadily increasing.

In this case, a young professional cycling hopefull has decided to switch to a recumbent to attempt a WRRA world record. I see this as a very positive indicator that the tide is changing.

Bonne Chance Aurélien!

Sean Costin
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Gugi100
New Member

Netherlands
80 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  10:58:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It seems like Aurélien has done it. 50.529 km.
Congratulations Aurélien!

(MMmmm only 130 meters, if I had known)

Nice mark for the next one.

Greetings Gert-Jan
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DuncanWatson
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USA
65 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  11:15:31  Show Profile  Visit DuncanWatson's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Congratulations Aurélien Bonneteau! It is great to see a new record established, especially so well documented and observed. Great work!
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COBRA GT
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60 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  12:00:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Aurelien.....Awesome!Congrats.GT.
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teubner
recumbent guru

796 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  14:38:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does that mean that the asking price of the Cro-Mo M5 lowracer that I'm trying to sell should go way up?
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nigel schroder
recumbent enthusiast

New Zealand
190 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  16:17:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there any video of the ride?
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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1999 Posts

Posted - 05/15/2009 :  16:58:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, A new record by just 130M? A little more than 1/2 a lap! It must have been a great struggle. This is a testament also to the strength of Gert-Jan's performance. I can't wait to hear the story.

Congratulations Aurelien! Great performance! We are looking forward to making this official.

Who will be next?

Sean Costin

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Niels van der Wal
Starting Member

Netherlands
11 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  13:22:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a link to a video. It is in French :-)

http://www.dailymotion.com/user/Dolmen33/video/x9awbk_record-de-lheure_sport

On the weekend of 17 and 18 oktober 2009 there will be a record weekend in Apeldoorn; Holland. This record will be atackt (and broken) there.

For now; a lot of respect for this record.

Niels van der Wal

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davidw
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Netherlands
62 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  13:41:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quite a statement to make mr vd Wal! Although i do believe you...
Well done mr Bonneteau! Congrats on the new record, quite an achievement. Great respect for those who do 50+ in the hour unfaired, and especially on a steel bike of 18yr old design!
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warren
human power expert

USA
6030 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2009 :  19:03:44  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow, the hour record average speed is creeping up little by little. This one is 31.32 MPH average! Great job Aurélien!

-Warren.
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sean costin
human power supergeek

Lesotho
1999 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2009 :  19:48:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More Nice pictures:
http://www.sudgironde-cyclisme.net/rubrique,bonneteau-a-l-heure,400587.html

The technical overview:
Tall rider, long cranks, low cadence, very elliptical custom chainring, Steel frame.

He also used an SRM for the attempt, so it will be interesting to see the data.

Sean
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