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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  10:32:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Warren,
I'm not able to control steering with a narrow grip unless my hands are pointed forward with the bar end angle in the photo.

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Originally posted by warren

Hi AA,

Or you could just adjust the angle of the clamp-on bar-ends back a bit...

-Warren.

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Speedbiker
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  13:21:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or put the levers on the back and work them with your thumbs?
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  13:38:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thom,
Too difficult press the levers if I flip them. There is no space between my hands and I use the middle finger to press the brake levers.
I'll have the new post finished in a couple days. No big deal to make a new one.

Maybe I'll clean up the first remote post and sell it to Warren so he can tuck his elbows in instead of leaving them flap around in the breeze with tiller.

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Speedbiker
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  15:54:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't do that! Or Hannon the Cannon, either. I hope to beat those guys some day. Why don't you make your next one "swoopy" so it matches the asthetic of the NoCom.
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  16:38:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At Hacksaw Tech Institute I earned my degree in function not esthetics.

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Originally posted by Speedbiker

Why don't you make your next one "swoopy" so it matches the asthetic of the NoCom.

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warren
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  19:10:45  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ha, Yes AA I would be happy to purchase your 1st model.
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warren
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  19:12:07  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thom, I made a mold for a swoopy one several years ago but it ended up looking a bit obscene.
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Speedbiker
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  21:03:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's disturbing.
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Posted - 03/12/2012 :  13:14:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have not attached the new post as I am setting up the cranks.

While setting up the RotorCranks that Don Smith turbocharged I noticed the front derailleur post was sticking out too far right to shift onto the small ring. No problemo with a quick hacksaw mod.

I made a bolt on offset derailleur post extnesion, lined it up on the post and chopped off the top half with my trusty hacksaw. This mod places the dreailleur in the perfect spot for shifting to the small ring.

The BB fore and aft adjustment on this bike is way cool! I can set the BB in place by very small increments by either sliding of tilting the bottom bracket plates. I will never have to adjust my BB length using wood stop blocks and plumbers putty again. yeehaa!!




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sean costin
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Posted - 03/13/2012 :  18:57:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alan,
Did you narrow those Rotor cranks?

Sean
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Posted - 03/15/2012 :  23:20:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fun times in Clampville tonight.
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Posted - 03/15/2012 :  23:28:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sean costin

Alan,
Did you narrow those Rotor cranks?

Sean



The RCs are 155 double.
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Posted - 03/16/2012 :  15:37:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Getting close to finishing the bike. Still have cut the remote rod to length, install cables, front derailleur, cycle computer and rear disc. The handle bar width will be reduced after a few rides. Amazing how light this bike is compared to the frames I modified in the past.

The remote post uses only 2 bolts screwed into tapped aluminum discs press fit into the handlebar tube. With the aluminum discs the 2 bolts needed are short length compared to long length bolts I have used in the past. On a previous remote assembly I used a thick wall aluminum tube stuffed with carbon fiber and epoxy resin which was quite heavy. The current assembly is a much better and lighter solution.



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tom porter
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Posted - 03/17/2012 :  12:54:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Beautiful job as always Alan. I'm think I'm going to do a CF lowracer ala Kragasaur's CF sleeves over birch plywood. Remote steer would be the best option.

O---o
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Posted - 03/18/2012 :  20:15:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tom,
You can go real narrow with remote. Give it a try.

Check out the handlebar width to the NoCom tiller handlebar. At the beginning of this project HPV experts told me that remote was not aero. Can not figure that one out as my hands are tucked in between my knees and the bar cons are only an inch above the NoCom tiller. I'll be punching a smaller hole in the air with remote compared to tiller.


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Speedbiker
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Posted - 03/18/2012 :  22:05:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alan, my tiller setup places my hands almost just like yours. Maybe a little lower. My extensions go downward from the short handlebar, not up. The angle is similar to yours to get the leverage. It is a very fast setup that I plan to duplicaten my NoCom. Could you please post a pic of your whole bike from the right side?
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tom porter
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Posted - 03/19/2012 :  07:46:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alan, one more question about the fork steerer clamp. What size is the chunk of aluminum you started with I take it you machined it yourself. Did you take any photos of the fabrication of it? Looks very nice.

O---o
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Posted - 03/19/2012 :  10:49:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tom,
I did not make the clamp. Its from the previous bike. I cut the height in half to lower it and one bolt is all I need. When used with a compression plug I can not twist it no matter how much force I apply.

Warrens fork clamp will work just the same and easy to make if you can braze.
If it was not for Warrens detail instructions on remote I'd never have been able to make one.



http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/remotesteering/default.htm
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Posted - 03/19/2012 :  10:56:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Speedbiker

you please post a pic of your whole bike from the right side


Thom,
I'll post a photo of the complete bike in a few days. Just have to finish it first. BTW, I found a excellent way to make a cable housing guide that attaches to the frame. I will explain once I post the final setup. Allowed me to set up the front brake cable rather easy instead of bonding on or drilling into the frame.
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alevand
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Posted - 03/19/2012 :  12:10:12  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
How do you keep your knees from rubbing on the rod end? Maybe your Q is wider than my narrow BB? I put my rod on the chain side and offset the steering pivot to one side.

C:
Tony Levand
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Posted - 03/19/2012 :  18:01:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alevand

How do you keep your knees from rubbing on the rod end? Maybe your Q is wider than my narrow BB? I put my rod on the chain side and offset the steering pivot to one side.

C:
Tony Levand



Good suggestion Tony. If my knee touches the rod end bearing I'll flip it to the right side. At present the outside edge of the bearing is 39 mm from the frame centerline.
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Posted - 03/26/2012 :  12:11:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finally got the frame and remote steering dialed in. Unlike HPV expert claims that remote is non aero the photos show remote steering can be quite narrow, aero and clean.

Next on the agenda will be setting up the tailfairing.



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Speedbiker
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Posted - 03/26/2012 :  14:59:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very nice. Now we see your training secret, pointing the bike straight up to simulate riding supersonic speeds.
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warren
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Posted - 03/26/2012 :  17:25:52  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Looks ready to ride! This week?
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Posted - 03/27/2012 :  08:47:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The high rez image showing steering rod placement.
I lowered the rod to allow brake lever clearance and avoid any binding of the rod end bearings.

Note the black plastic covering the frame opening of the adjustable BB. The plastic is from a microwave bowl shaped with a heat gun to match the frame surface


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