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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2017 :  17:30:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got the new idlers mounted up. The dual idler setup should be the last answer, I hope. Still need to put the new, longer chain on. But, at least the new lower idler keeps the chain off the bottom stay.






... and of course, the Flickr links don't work. Grr...

EDIT: OK,figured out the Flickr links...

Edited by - ShelGame on 01/18/2017 19:25:06
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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
3743 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2017 :  18:35:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Warm weather is coming. Take that bike up to the park!
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2017 :  19:15:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, 53 deg on Saturday. Maiden voyage this weekend. No more training stand queen.
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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
3743 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2017 :  19:50:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chain looks terrific. Have fun.
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2017 :  18:24:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ride time!

Overall, the first ride went well. I didn't go far or push it since it was still very wet out. Like dew covering everything. The front end feels squirrelly to me. But, that could be the wet, combined with a brand new tire, and the light front end. I hope it will be better once the tire is scrubbed in and it's dry,

The frame is pretty stiff. I can only feel any flex over the worst bumps. It's actually a pretty harsh ride. I was surprised.

Videos:




Edited by - ShelGame on 03/13/2017 17:56:23
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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
3743 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2017 :  19:16:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where's the video Shel? The combination of the light loading on the front wheel, combined with greater mass forward of your CG with contribute to the handling your noted. It's one of the reasons these designs were never real popular. But you'll get used to it and it will become second nature. Keep riding!
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2017 :  06:02:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Video links fixed...
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PUGZCAT
recumbent enthusiast

Canada
459 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2017 :  18:21:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A beautiful, finely crafted, nicely equipped, well thought out project, it must be a joy to be out riding it. Come warm weather be prepared to almost spending as much time stopped answering questions and having pictures taken as riding.
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2017 :  06:28:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks! Unfortunately, the weather report for the next 2 weeks is not nearly as nice as last Saturday. More cold, rain snow and ice coming. It's back on the training stand for now...
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PUGZCAT
recumbent enthusiast

Canada
459 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2017 :  06:44:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just an idea for paint, it seems like a shame to hide all those nicely filed fillet brazed brass joints. The current trend for BMX bikes is a transparent colour coat with a high gloss clear coat.
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Balor
recumbent guru

Russia
512 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2017 :  07:22:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PUGZCAT

Just an idea for paint, it seems like a shame to hide all those nicely filed fillet brazed brass joints. The current trend for BMX bikes is a transparent colour coat with a high gloss clear coat.



Yea, I think this will look GREAT.
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2017 :  12:51:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Warm enough today for a few trips around the block. Still getting used to it. Clipped in today. And, got my first fall under my belt. At least I wasn't moving. No damage to me or the bike (other than my ego).


Edited by - ShelGame on 02/11/2017 12:53:28
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2017 :  14:39:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After the last ride, I decide to change up the bars. It's too difficult to get to the brake levers in an emergency. Hopefully my parts show up tomorrow to re-do the bars.
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2017 :  11:28:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's better.



Edited by - ShelGame on 02/19/2017 11:31:24
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Balor
recumbent guru

Russia
512 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2017 :  13:15:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey, cool! Where did you get those banjo hydraline connectors?
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2017 :  13:49:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're in the Jagwire adapter kit for Shimano.
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2017 :  12:56:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guess I need to tighten my pedals. Ouch.

Ignore the speed. It's reading the wheel sensor and is clearly not calibrated for the 406.


Edited by - ShelGame on 02/20/2017 13:17:02
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2017 :  12:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not ready to give up on my steering setup just yet; but, it needs improvement, I think maybe I don't have enough tiller for gunner-style bars. I find I need to pull back on the bars to stabilize the front end. If I don't, it wanders, a lot.

I have about 8" of tiller length. I think most low racers have maybe a foot. Maybe super man or hamster bars would work better with this lower tiller?
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Balor
recumbent guru

Russia
512 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2017 :  13:44:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ShelGame

I'm not ready to give up on my steering setup just yet; but, it needs improvement, I think maybe I don't have enough tiller for gunner-style bars. I find I need to pull back on the bars to stabilize the front end. If I don't, it wanders, a lot.

I have about 8" of tiller length. I think most low racers have maybe a foot. Maybe super man or hamster bars would work better with this lower tiller?



8" is considered optimum, actually.
You sure you have enough trail? Try turning the fork around, and see how extra trail would affect the ride.
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2017 :  13:58:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If anything, I have too much trail. It's more than 2" (50mm) now. I intentionally left it a little long so that it wouldn't be reduced too much when I add a 700c rear wheel.
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2017 :  03:49:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, here's yesterday's setup, with my hand position.

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Last night, I built up this.

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Gonna give these a ride and see how they work.
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warren
human power expert

USA
6087 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2017 :  06:03:14  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Those look better if the brakes have enough pull mounted like that.
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2017 :  06:36:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warren

Those look better if the brakes have enough pull mounted like that.



They don't, currently. I need to move them around a bit. Or, swap to straight bars and mount the shifters on some 'nubs' made from some old straight bar-ends.
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warren
human power expert

USA
6087 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2017 :  18:17:04  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Straight bars worked better for me but they are harder to find (or build!)
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ShelGame
recumbent enthusiast

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2017 :  18:51:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So,, I read the instructions for the Shimano levers. The throw is adjustable.

I was able to turn the adjuster enough that they will work with the bent bars; and clear the shifters. I was even able to rotate the brake levers more to the front for a better reach with my index fingers.
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