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alevand
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USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2017 :  12:04:53  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This QV has lots of stowage:


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Originally posted by Jerry

Thinking of making an axle like I used on my catamaran sailboat to use under a camping cot. Take the axle out from under cot at camping spot. Either use a tent, tarp, or coroplast over the cot. I could haul all my gear on the cot/trailer. When I get over, if ever, this bug, I will experiment with this idea. I really like putting all my supplies and gear on a trailer. Just works better for me. 100 pounds on a trailer is easier than 35 pounds on my bike. Plus, I seem not to lose stuff as often when I use a trailer. Use the hammock when warmer, cot when cooler. Sometimes though, I just can't sleep in a hammock.



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Edited by - alevand on 12/27/2017 12:06:42
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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
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Posted - 12/27/2017 :  17:44:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know a guy down this way that I have ridden with who owns 2017 Quattrovelo #30, 2017 DFXL #133, a 2015 Milan GT, and a Mango Sports Edition. He takes his teenage daughter with him when he rides the Quattrovelo. He also owns a 2000 Rotator Super 7 Streamliner, 2003 Rotator Coyote Streamliner, and about 9 other recumbents. Nice guy. He did a Pactour tour this year in his Milan GT. I was tempted to buy a Quest velomobile yesterday! I decided to keep refining my corovelo instead. When I get well enough and the weather is nicer, I am going to make several changes to my corovelo. New nose cone, re-do the rear end to be removable, and build more storage in the rear. A few other things here and there like maybe making the front end that tilts up and/or removable. Tomorrow will be 3 weeks of this bug!
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2017 :  18:00:19  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Whats his favorite?

Well, it got up to 8 degrees today! Cold weather for at least another week, suppose to warm up enough tonight to snow tomorrow, 15.

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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1279 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2017 :  19:03:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the Milan is his favorite. He took off in the Milan one day and rode about 260 miles to Austin. I don't remember the details, but, I think he did it in less than 9 hours!

I was wrong about the time. He averaged 19.6 mph in the Milan for 255 miles to Austin.

Edited by - Jerry on 12/28/2017 09:40:04
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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1279 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2018 :  09:34:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The new nose cones are suppose to be delivered today. Yeah!

Duh! Tomorrow.

Edited by - Jerry on 01/01/2018 14:46:02
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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1279 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2018 :  14:52:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ordered this https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Steel-Bicycle-Bike-Cargo-luggage-Trailer-One-Wheel-Cart-Carrier-For-Shopping/290922474442?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3D2d2b7f04844a46f29ca3601d922f4448%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D252435816229&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 . I will probably weld it up instead of bolting it together. Pull behind the Baron, Musashi, or corovelo.

It is ordered.

Edited by - Jerry on 01/01/2018 14:56:07
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2018 :  11:41:34  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Having a January thaw today, 57 and rain. Thought Id take advantage of the nice weather and ride bike, since all the snow melted, cold returns tomorrow. Well, the deficiency of SWB with a tire between your legs became immediately obvious when it first touched wet driveway. Shorts are wet, shoes are wet, water draining off the cassette, cold air blowing in from the wheel opening. Only rode a block. The front wheel needs to be completely sealed off. This weather would be no problem in the Carp. Maybe Im barking up the wrong tree with this SWB FWD stuff and should just build a simple LWB bike again.



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Edited by - alevand on 01/11/2018 11:48:26
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warren
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2018 :  12:21:10  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You just need a wheel fairing, or at least a full fender to fix that.
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alevand
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USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2018 :  14:59:20  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The bike with fairing weighs 39 lbs, the front fairing weighs 5 lbs and the back half 3 lbs. Its 10 lbs lighter than the old Carp. I am doing some upgrades and then seal the front wheel and reinstall the fairing.

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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2018 :  20:38:58  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The upgrades are turning into major rework. I should have the frame done by tomorrow.

... Well I lowered the seat 4 inches and the BB 2.5 inches, wheel base is 3 inches longer. Took it down the block and back. I don't know if it was such a good idea for a touring bike. Heal is hitting the derailleur again. I need to lengthen the chain, an put the back brake on. I can now put the back wheel on without having to let the air out. After I fix these things I'll start sealing up the front wheel.

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Edited by - alevand on 01/13/2018 15:31:49
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2018 :  11:47:04  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I got the back wheel fender and skirts sealed up, now the front...I routed the rear brake cable inside the frame tube. I can put stuff there and no worry that its pushing on the cable.

... still needs some work, had to cut the front off, no pedal clearance. The loose tyvek gets glued to the fairing to seal.I use aluminum peal type pop rivets to joint the chloroplast as well as cable ties. Note the camping pad in the seat and studded tire behind.



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Edited by - alevand on 01/14/2018 17:57:33
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warren
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USA
6266 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2018 :  21:34:53  Show Profile  Visit warren's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow, it's a lowracer now!
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alevand
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USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2018 :  19:59:44  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I made a spread sheet to calculate a Biopace like chain ring contour. I have the shape at the pitch diameter, but need to integrate along the pitch circumference to get x,y points at every chain tooth. Then I can plot it full size after importing to cad.



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Edited by - alevand on 01/16/2018 20:01:23
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alevand
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USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2018 :  15:13:18  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I put on the shortened crank arms I made for the MBB-VPS, 5 inch long, 1 inch shorter, and most of my problems went away, heal doesn't hit derailleur, crank arm doesn't hit tire or fender, I can spin faster and my knees are lower.I like the Biopace ring. Im thinking of making a custom narrow BB and lowering it 1/2 inch. That will give me better vision over the nose. No progress on the 73 tooth chain wheel, I cant get even increments around the circumference. I am summing up 1 degree lengths, whet its over .5 inch long it interpolates the last position back to .5. I expect a small error from not being a straight line from point to point, but the errors are bigger, and I don't see my mistake. Though I could probably use a 65 tooth with the short cranks. I was able to import the spread sheet points into 2D LibreCad.

Got up to 30 mph in front of my house, seemed OK. After I finish the chain ring, I'll put the nose back on.


...Well, I guessed values until the distances between points was .5 inch. I did half, thinking I could rotate the other half, but I made a odd number of teeth... oops, Now I have to reguess all the teeth adding a tooth. I need a closed form.


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Edited by - alevand on 01/22/2018 19:35:56
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2018 :  18:42:28  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Almost there, I have a ten mil error on some tooth locations. I need to iterate one more time.

Got it. 66 teeth, .003 error:



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Edited by - alevand on 01/22/2018 19:36:35
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2018 :  06:15:59  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I ordered aluminum sheet for the chain ring. Made full size print. I moved the BB down 3/4 inch and back 1/2 inch. Its 3 inches above seat. I moved the seat back to compensate for the shorter crank arms. Handle bar stem needs to be shortened. I'll look to see if I have a narrower BB spindle. Crank arm tool lost in fire, reordered.

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Edited by - alevand on 01/26/2018 06:26:13
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2018 :  15:31:26  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow, the chain ring sheet metal was waiting for me at my door, less than a day!

I goofed with the existing rings all morning, got a 58 and 36 mounted with narrow Q, the derailleur doesn't have enough take up. I have 58-36 to 32-11. 36 to 32 and 28 works, trying smaller cogs crashes the drive,as the cage folds over too much. 52, 48 and 32 front rings worked OK.

I don't know how the 68-42-28 will work.

I might try the shamano derailleur again, it might not hit my heal with the shorter cranks. It has an even longer cage,

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Edited by - alevand on 01/27/2018 15:48:04
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2018 :  12:33:32  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I may have to go with a mid drive if I can't mount the derailleur so it can take up the slack with the gear ranges I want. Maybe I should just build the F-26

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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2018 :  12:33:30  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The crank arms were too narrow, and my heals were interfering with the skirt on turns. I thought they were 127 mm, so I made a left crank arm 130 mm, but not bent inward. Its a little longer, as the old one measures 121 mm, Doh!

... I drilled and tapped a right side arm the same length. I am mounting 4 chain wheels, 28, 38, 48 and 58. Then I have to mess with the derailleur take up. I'll try mounting it 90 degrees ccw to get the cage to rotate more before the chain overlaps and without heal interference.


... Got the 4 chain rings mounted and on the bike. Weather is not conducent for test riding, still have rear derailleur wows.



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Edited by - alevand on 02/07/2018 19:11:06
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2018 :  14:13:23  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yesterday I changed the derailleur mount, I rotated the hanger about 90 degrees around the axle. Now the cage is inline with the cassette and idler when the chain is on the big sprockets 58 and 30, and still has excess take up on the 36 and 12 . I took 4 links out. I need a bigger return idler to get the chain above the fender. Snow storm weather is not conducive to test riding, not sure if heel will clear it.

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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2018 :  06:54:02  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I ordered new Nashbar sandals and a tool kit.

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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
3835 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2018 :  11:44:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tony, those four chainrings fascinate me. I'd love to watch it shift. What will the gear inch range be?
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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1279 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2018 :  13:59:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was thinking about the same thing on the 4 chain rings. Pretty cool stuff.

I had to go back and re-read because I had forgotten Tony had turned the bike into fwd.
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2018 :  14:26:58  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gear inch:
58/11*20=106
28/30*20=19

58 will be a little small with a full fairing.

I put a larger drive idler (6 inch cable pulley) on and moved it forward and inch, after welding I see I could have move it an additional half inch.. I am working on where to put the twisting return idler mount, using the old drive idler. The plastic on one side of the V-groove shows chain wear.

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Edited by - alevand on 02/15/2018 19:39:28
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3213 Posts

Posted - 02/17/2018 :  15:17:07  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It seems to work OK, all except my heel hits the derailleur. Snowing hard outside, so cant test ride it much. Chain was coming off the return idler on right turns, I tied a bungee cord on it, it seemed to help.



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