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Terry
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Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2018 :  11:48:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I thought I would get more support with the upper attachment but I think I need to tie the boom at the front of the bridge and the outer end to the front of the nose cone.
I think this is doable even with the removable nose cone? It will mean a few more screws to get at the cranks for service. I have several prototypes in mind, so I will keep playing !!
This dilemma is my fault for trying to go with centre tiller steering!
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2018 :  12:50:08  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thats a good idea about fasteners in nose cone. Never rode true tank steer like waw. Had a catrike years ago. I like tiller. Can’t you switch to waw tank hardware?



There is a youtube of it on davids channel. The waw is simple to adjust, has access holes for the tool.
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Terry
Starting Member

Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2018 :  23:56:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have tank steer in my first Velo . I just want to try tiller in the wood WAW .
If it is too difficult I can always default to the newer WAW set up like the picture you posted.
T
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Terry
Starting Member

Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2018 :  15:18:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.flickr.com/photos/146970675@N08/shares/tf8K02

I've made a bridge to fit between the wheel wells as well, contain the steering rods and the tiller steering bearing. Next plan is to run a brace from the bridge to near the cranks!
Anyone think this will work or a waste of time?. I am trying to avoid having to tie the end of the boom to the nose cone?
T
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2018 :  17:14:16  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Terry, do u have another way to put pics up?

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Terry
Starting Member

Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2018 :  23:53:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry, no..
Does that link not work?
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2018 :  07:28:44  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Terry

Sorry, no..
Does that link not work?
T



No,

Most flickers are open, member would haf to join yahoo.

U sent 2 old pics of your velos.
Can you send boom / bridge photos?
You might wanta use photobucket then you can add what pic you want each time or remove them.
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Edited by - carolina on 03/05/2018 09:12:29
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Terry
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Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2018 :  09:36:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmmm, the Flickr pics are public.
Is there an arrow in the top left corner? Press that to get to the other pics.?
Other than that ,,, I have no idea!
I don't want yet another photo site that I don't know how to use
Email?
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2018 :  11:52:56  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yours has no arrows. Most do! I can’t work it. Photobucket is kindergarten!

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Tom Schneider
recumbent enthusiast

125 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2018 :  15:17:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can view 39 pics in Photostream in Flickr, are these the pics? I am using Chrome.

Tom

Edited by - Tom Schneider on 03/05/2018 19:39:10
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Terry
Starting Member

Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2018 :  17:26:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tom, yes those are the ones.
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2018 :  17:41:21  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Terry , i still can’t get it to work. I got arrows punched up but but still two pics. Have looked at flicker pics for years dont inow what iam doing wrong.

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Jerry
human power supergeek

USA
1303 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2018 :  21:09:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How about this! https://www.flickr.com/photos/146970675@N08/
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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
3835 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2018 :  08:09:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I told you a straight up and down boom mount wouldn't work. It doesn't address any of the major loads. Even if you double up the carbon it will still be a poor design.
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2018 :  10:18:32  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yea, Terry that worked.



Your getting close, maybe run tube back over bridge like waw because tiller dose not need to go Left or Right. That would be bigger footprint & you can have bigger footprint at top too.

Here’s the photo/zoom in.



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Edited by - carolina on 03/07/2018 10:21:39
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Terry
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Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2018 :  11:01:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jerry, Thanks for adding the link.
SB, I get it. Presently the design is poor. I'm here looking for ideas to improve it! Maybe that is not possible?
I can't see a way to get a longer lever back to the seat and still use tiller steering?
I could tie it into the front of the bridge like the mockup but is that enough ?
T

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Terry
Starting Member

Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2018 :  11:12:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that Mike, The problem might be that I'm trying to blend the WAW with the df.
Might have to go with side stick ??
I'll keep messing around for awhile till it's not fun!!
T
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2018 :  13:25:16  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Better zoom in terry! Hilgo velo google images and youtube.



Keep the tensioner idea too.

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Edited by - carolina on 03/07/2018 13:26:03
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Terry
Starting Member

Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2018 :  16:17:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike,
There are some images of the Hilgo that look possible.
I will mock up an idea or two! I might have to go with some aluminum?
T
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2018 :  17:56:08  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yea, 40 mm aluminum or cf. I would go with sq & buy a quest bb. Side it forward or backwards on the 40mm boom. Call theo, he will mail it that day or next. You have aluminum welder guy local.

Ive tacked tubes together with hot glue and let joe alum weld it. Yea

Waw and hilgo pics and large top & bottom footprint.

The bridge is a rock in mine and your too, permanently mounted. Glued in, it’s a wood box.

Stay on front leading edge of bridge and floor.

Wide footprint at top , it want go anywhere.

Study new waw (pics) bridge,, new waw location is way stronger than it use to be on older models.

If ya haf to make a stronger bridge, no problem.

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Edited by - carolina on 03/07/2018 17:57:42
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Terry
Starting Member

Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2018 :  10:48:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another boom . This better deals with the forces!
Sorry, I can't figure out the photo posting but they might show on my flicker ?
T
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2018 :  11:37:00  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That will work, I would do north and south footprint wider and use the front face of the bridge too. Figure floor flexing like waw did. Front base plate and leading edge of bridge makes a box. You can gusset it too. Top plate by knees wide.

Cf over wood, aluminum bb embedded,(or use Quest sliding bb over a 40mm sq tube)..

You will bolt it in??
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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2018 :  08:42:51  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Think about the sliding bb from theo. Velomobiel.nl

Concentration is on floor of velo as seen with Daniel.

Strength from rear wheel well, chain canal (the main spar of a velo), bridge between front wheel wells. Your rear bulkhead, like mine gives super strength.

You can make the lateral rear chain wheel housing.

Did you have any weak areas on chain route on last velo, this one will be stronger. I don’t have any weak areas yet.

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carolina
recumbent guru

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2018 :  10:08:28  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This might have been posted twice, it popped up on youtube now.

https://youtu.be/POymJS6_e6I

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Terry
Starting Member

Canada
49 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2018 :  09:45:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://photos.app.goo.gl/GnyqWTuctLfgZgt23
Some progress albeit slow!
I've settled on a chain line similar to the Quest. One idler on power side and a tube for the return line.
I need to rebuild the the tunnel and the bridge and the rear chain cover. but that is relatively easy .now that I can see where the chain will run!
I have most of the parts for the front suspension and the steering.
I am still hopeful I can use centre tiller steering for this build.
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