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neve_r_est
recumbent enthusiast

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Posted - 03/08/2018 :  06:51:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Best wide range road cassette so far. Interloc Elite 11-42 11sp: 11-12-13-15-17-19-21-25-30-36-42T

I paired it with the first 8 of a Sram PG1130 11sp: 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-22-25-28-32. So now I have 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-22-30-36-42T. Or if you wanted a smoother step into low range you could swap the last 4 for 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-25-30-36-42T.

https://www.cxmagazine.com/ird-elite-11-42-11-40-wide-range-cassette-xx1-alternative-gravel

Garrie L Hill
human power supergeek

USA
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Posted - 03/08/2018 :  07:40:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Krikeys! Is the rear derailleur still less than 1/2 the diameter of your drive wheel? ;-) Obviously, not for 406 wheels...... Well, maybe when you shift into the right gear combination the rear derailleur can be used as a kickstand?

Garrie "carbon based lifeform" Hill
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neve_r_est
recumbent enthusiast

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Posted - 03/08/2018 :  08:16:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tiny wheels don't work worth a darn on gravel and faired recumbents are heavy: https://secca.smugmug.com/CIRREM-2018/i-7rLkzLX/A
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3246 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2018 :  08:42:03  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cool. They might be heavy, but they scream going down hill. The full coroplast fairing on my swb weighs only 8 lbs. What tires are you using?

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Edited by - alevand on 03/08/2018 08:50:06
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neve_r_est
recumbent enthusiast

288 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2018 :  09:26:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These currently. Pondering trying the 1.8 in the extralight casing for smooth courses. https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/tires/26-inch/compass-26-x-2-3-rat-trap-pass/
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alevand
human power expert

USA
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Posted - 03/08/2018 :  11:26:28  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, the EL is suppose to be a new world. What bike are you riding?

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neve_r_est
recumbent enthusiast

288 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2018 :  12:07:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
New bike I whipped together last week, then raced it last weekend. It's the newest version of my gravel streamliner project. I'm calling it my Allroad Streamliner. Full fairing is still in the works. I've made half a dozen changes since this pic.
https://dennisgrelk.smugmug.com/Allroad-Streamliner/
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LunaticFringe
recumbent enthusiast

USA
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Posted - 03/08/2018 :  12:13:15  Show Profile  Visit LunaticFringe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cool tires! What a WILD cassette that is.

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neve_r_est
recumbent enthusiast

288 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2018 :  12:40:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That cassette is part of what happens when you attempt to ride a faired recumbent at a gravel race and find yourself on both ends of your gear range on every hill. I'm pairing it with a 60/34 up front to try making my momentum go a little farther and the climbing a little less painful, all while not giving up the small steps that you need between gears when you're trying to eek out all the speed into the stubborn 20mph headwind. There are some hoops to jump through to make all that work, but this cassette is a simple 1x solution for less extreme uses. https://dennisgrelk.smugmug.com/Allroad-Streamliner/i-bHxZv3g/A
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Garrie L Hill
human power supergeek

USA
1753 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2018 :  14:58:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trés Kewel! Make sure you bring that to the Michigan race. I'd like to take a look/ride, if I may.

Garrie "carbon based lifeform" Hill
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Speedbiker
human power expert

USA
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Posted - 03/08/2018 :  19:50:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ya better grow some more, Garrie.
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Garrie L Hill
human power supergeek

USA
1753 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2018 :  20:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, I’ll just wear my custom carbon fiber elevator bike shoes.... and push the “up” button!

Garrie "carbon based lifeform" Hill
HPRA Co-Dictator of the East
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3246 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2018 :  06:28:09  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You might need an intermediate, as it might over shift going down to the 34. I have 58,48,38,28 front and 30 to 11 rear, that's 47. On the 28 I can only use the first 3, as the derailleur has 43 take up. I filed the cage stop off to get a little extra. 60-34+42-11=56 You might change the return idler to a second cage, backward, outboard of the main idler so it can wrap around, if there is knee clearance, though it only would get about 90 degrees take up, but may be enough for the extra 26.

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neve_r_est
recumbent enthusiast

288 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2018 :  15:57:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, the front shifts pretty smoothly. The floating return idler allows some extra chain wrap to keep things friendly for the rear der. (I overwound the der spring and stretched it, so the helper spring in this pic is just geting me by til the new derailleur shows up.) I braced and gussetted the frame, raised the front fairing pivot, moved the rear disc mount for 140mm rear rotor, and swapped the new gearing on here as well.
https://dennisgrelk.smugmug.com/Allroad-Streamliner/i-LBDxK9Z/A

Edited by - neve_r_est on 03/09/2018 16:02:21
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alevand
human power expert

USA
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Posted - 03/10/2018 :  06:21:37  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's nice how you worked that out. You were going 50 mph on a gravel road!?

I like the brake cable tensioning the idler, clever, the boom is too close to the tire to work on my fwd swb.

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Edited by - alevand on 03/13/2018 09:22:41
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neve_r_est
recumbent enthusiast

288 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2018 :  10:48:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, 50 on gravel and over 30 on nearly every other downhill.

Half the beauty of the floating idler is that it will move if the wheel comes in contact with it. I originally designed it to act as the primary tensioner for my single pulley derailleur setup on my lowracer. https://dennisgrelk.smugmug.com/Lowracer/
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alevand
human power expert

USA
3246 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2018 :  11:48:19  Show Profile  Visit alevand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, I have a ball joint pivot on my return idler, but the bottom of the idler contacts the frame on left turns, limiting the pivot..the tire is 20x1.5 wide. Its mostly a problem when on both large sprockets. The idler is mounted higher, so the chain doesn't rub on the fender.

My heal hits the derailleur cable attachment, and I don't see a good way to grind it off move it to the other side, it molded into the aluminum. I have an upside down derailleur on order , if it ever gets here.

I like how the return chain stays close to the steering axis on your single wheel derailleur, and the length for the chain to twist..but I thing 2 idler wheels are better, as the chain tension is not coupled to the mechanism.

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Edited by - alevand on 03/13/2018 13:37:45
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